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Mansfield Park: the 2007 TV production

  • Jun. 22nd, 2008 at 9:25 PM
marcie
I keep forgetting to watch the Jane Austens that have been showing on the ABC on Sunday nights recently. Tonight I remembered, but I just had to walk away halfway through.

I accept that Mansfield Park isn't anyone's favourite Austen, and that Fanny Price really isn't anyone's favourite heroine. She's a mouse - she's fragile, and she's timid, and she's not witty, and she's rigidly well-behaved, and she disapproves quietly when other people aren't well behaved. She's the Cinderella of her household, overlooked and bullied, and she does very little to stand up for herself. I do like her, because when push comes to shove she does make a stand, very much against her nature, and she then accepts the punishment for that stand with utter meekness because that's the only way she could, but the important thing is the stand in the first place. And because, while she spends the entire book pining, she does it with dignity. And because she's human, and she almost breaks down, and she really does make Henry better than he was, more sincere, even though she doesn't make him better enough.

But. Yeah. She's not a sparkling character. I can see, even if I don't like it, that you might want to tweak her presentation a bit for an adaptation. But, the thing is, you can't, you really can't, make her an outspoken, glowingly pretty tomboy, and still keep her role and actions in the book unchanged.

It makes absolutely no sense for this tomboyish girl who runs around with her hair all down her back, and irritates her uncle at the dining table with questions about slavery, to be staunchly disapproving of the play her family wants to put on, on the basis that it's improper and her uncle won't like it. It makes no sense for her to find Miss Crawford's playfulness so alien. It makes no sense that nobody in the family really notices whether she's in the room, when she draws the eye with every head toss, every laugh, every unconventional comment.

Also, the hair. Really. I can't say with absolute certainty that a mid-nineteenth century girl would not wear her hair messily tumbled all over her shoulders. Even at a ball in her honour, although it seems very odd. But when she's the only one with the bright golden loose locks, when her more vibrant and charming cousins are so demurely scraped back - well, she just looks as though she's a modern girl who's been superimposed on top of a period picture.

She looks, in fact - and you would think that when you cast Billie Piper as a period heroine you might be careful of this - exactly like Rose Tyler, spat out of the Tardis into Edwardian England.

And Edmund, my god, okay, Edmund by his actions is not the most lovable of heroes. He's self-righteous and disapproving, rather like Fanny, and he's snared by the pretty girl who stamps all over his principles and makes no secret of it. Worst of all, he entirely approves the banishment and misery of his sister, after she falls from grace. You can get around all this and show us what Fanny sees in him if you make him earnestly appealing, but he really wasn't here. He was a prig. I just wanted Fanny to marry Henry Crawford.

Which brings me to the reason I watched this for an hour even while thinking all these things. Because yay, both Crawfords were awesome. If I'd thought there was the slightest chance they might mess with the ending and give us a Fanny/Henry alliance, I would have stuck it out. I especially loved the brother-sister scenes on their own, but the two of them were a light in the darkness in general.

Comments

[info]boojumlol wrote:
Jun. 22nd, 2008 01:55 pm (UTC)
I agree with every word. It was infuriating and bewildering. With Hoyden Fanny in the frame the scenes where she stands up to Henry Crawford and her uncle fall completely flat. In the book they're absolutely momentous because you know what the rebellion is costing her.

I'm honestly surprised they made such a mull of it. The other two I watched weren't bad.
[info]blindmouse wrote:
Jun. 23rd, 2008 12:02 am (UTC)
I didn't get to that scene, but yes, I can imagine. I didn't think the production was bad, except for that one thing, where the heroine completely didn't belong in her own story.
[info]parlophone wrote:
Jun. 22nd, 2008 03:56 pm (UTC)
Billie Piper as Fanny Price? I don't watch a whole lot of television (bar tennis and documentaries) but that seems like a v incongruous piece of casting to me. It's not that she can't do 'period' characters -- I've seen bits of Ruby in the Smoke and she was fine as Sally Lockhart.

Completely OT, but re unsuitable hair in tv dramas? I cannot watch any of those (usually American) police procedural dramas, bc of all those women with long loose, wavy hair, handling evidence in forensic labs. Okay, hairnets are generally not a flattering look, however.
[info]blindmouse wrote:
Jun. 23rd, 2008 12:06 am (UTC)
She wasn't bad at her role, it was just that her role was so wrong. Well, and there was utterly no chemistry between her and Edmund, because we just couldn't believe that this girl could adore him in such a way.

Heh, yeah, wispy wavy hair in unsuitable jobs does tend to make me roll my eyes, though it's not a deal breaker for me :-)
[info]pir8fancier wrote:
Jun. 22nd, 2008 04:44 pm (UTC)
Mansfield Park was the nadir of that production series. It was laughable. Not that I blame Billie Piper, who was woefully miscast. In fact, she might have made a smashing Mary Crawford. The whole POINT about Fanny is that she is the unseen. Sort of hard to be unseen when you're racing through the halls of a manor and your tits are bouncing hither and yon. However, the Northanger Abbey was QUITE good. The best production I've seen of that story (which, IMO, is the weakness of the Austen novels, although I think Isabella Thorpe only second to Mrs. Norris as one of the most well written, odious women in fiction). Worth renting is the BBC production of Mansfield Park, which is like 6 hours long. THAT production is completely faithful to the book, and the interpretation of Fanny is perfect. It's about 20 years old.
[info]blindmouse wrote:
Jun. 23rd, 2008 12:17 am (UTC)
Mansfield Park was the nadir of that production series.

Lucky me for catching it, then. They seem to be over now - although on the bright side, Doctor Who next Sunday :D

In fact, she might have made a smashing Mary Crawford.

Maybe. She could even have been Maria Bertram, I think. But Fanny ... yeah, somebody was just having fun with the deliberate miscasting there.

However, the Northanger Abbey was QUITE good. The best production I've seen of that story

I never have seen a Northanger production, I don't think. I sort of felt that I had, with all the lines the Frances O'Connor Mansfield Park stole from it.

I've not heard of the old BBC Mansfield - I might see if I can track that down.
[info]pir8fancier wrote:
Jun. 23rd, 2008 02:39 am (UTC)
Yes, Billie Piper would also do for a Maria Crawford. All that blatent sex appeal forced to underground per the prerequisites of being a baronet's daughter.

Please, do not bother with other NA renditions. The current one is quite good, mainly because it does a very good job of hinting at the sexuality inherent in the gothic novels. Unfortunately, the Henry Tilney is nothing to swoon over, the the Catherine Morland is quite well cast.

As much as I like the Frances O'Connor Mansfield Park (superbly acted), it really was more like a "Jane Austen" 101. It stole bits from ALL the novels to make a whole, when really, you have so much going on in ALL the books that to fracture that left me scratching my head (as much as I admired many bits of it). But the Frances O'Connor version, no matter how well done and how well acted is NOT Fanny Price.

This version, I think, it very true to the novel: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085052/

Many critics have said that this is the weakest of all of JA's novels, but I adore it. This adapation is very, very good. And the actor who plays Edmund Bertram is excellent.
[info]blindmouse wrote:
Jun. 23rd, 2008 03:00 am (UTC)
But the Frances O'Connor version, no matter how well done and how well acted is NOT Fanny Price.

No, not in the least, and that bugged me a lot at the time. But looking at this new version, I have to say that with the O'Connor, they at least made the character overhaul complete. That Fanny worked in the context of the film, unlike the Piper version.

I don't know that it's a weak novel - I think it's a very mature one, and I love how human Fanny is. How she has this idea of how she's going to go home and be with her family and the lack of money won't matter because she's never cared about the grandeur at Mansfield, and she'll look after her father and she'll stay true to Edmund forever. Only then her father's a drunkard and the poverty is uncomfortable and she can't stand it and Edmund's a long way away and, argh, maybe Henry wasn't so bad? I like her, and I like the book. It just doesn't have the sheer fun of most of her others.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jun. 23rd, 2008 03:06 am (UTC)
Oh no, I don't think it's weak, but many of the older literary critics thought so. One of them (I can't remember who), called Fanny Price "...a monster of vanity." I adore it. I think it a very nuanced piece, and there is really no one more captivating in the entire Jane Austen oeuvre (with the exception of Elizabeth Bennett) who is as capitavating as Mary Crawford. Her language is really so brilliant. I think she set up Mary as the perfect foil to Fanny, who is the silent "moral" one, juxtaposed to the brilliantly verbal (but corrupt) Mary. It's a very fine book. One book of literary criticism that I would recomment is Tony Tanner's "Jane Austen." He dissects all the novels and his chapters on Sense and Sensibility AND Mansfield Park changed my perception of these novels forever. He's primarily a Jamesian scholar, but I thought his analysis of especially the less acknowledged novels very well done. It's available used pretty much everywhere. Highly recommended.
[info]blindmouse wrote:
Jun. 23rd, 2008 03:18 am (UTC)
Hm. I don't think I'd mind reading some literary crit of Sense and Sensibility. It's my least favourite, but I often feel as though I missed something somewhere - as though the problem is that I just didn't get it.

I think after all this thinking about it that I need to reread Mansfield, and pay more attention to the Crawfords. For all that, uh, I named my fic journal after Henry, I've not actually considered them deeply as characters.
[info]diz_beth wrote:
Jun. 22nd, 2008 10:36 pm (UTC)
Totally agree. Billie Piper as Fanny Price just did not work!

So far the only one the ABC's shown that I've enjoyed was Persuasion. And even then it wasn't brilliant, there were some bits where I was like "what?! Where did THAT come from??" (But I did miss Northanger Abbey - I recorded it but it botched up :-( ).
[info]blindmouse wrote:
Jun. 23rd, 2008 12:19 am (UTC)
I would have liked to see Persuasion. I don't like the movie much at all, so any new interpretation has the potential to be an improvement :-) Plus, it's one of my favourites of the books - Anne is like a grown up, non-timid Fanny.